"After completing my VCE in 1988, I landed my first job in the industry with VOP Mercantile as a clerk/trainee at the Dandenong Saleyards in early 1989.After settling into the role,which was 3 days a week, I applied for,and was successful in getting a traineeship with Elders Pastoral in October 1989. I was based at Leongatha, and was sent from branch to branch in relieving roles,and to gain experience. I worked in Sale,Bairnsdale,Yarram and Swan Hill. It was whilst working at Yarram I first met David Phelan on early 1990. In 1992 I was transferred to Finley, NSW,as a Livestock Salesman.I had started auctioneering whilst in Gippsland and it was at Finley where I improved my auctioneering skills and looked after a diverse client base. In August 1993 I moved to Kilmore, Vic, as livestock salesman with Brian Rodwell and co. With the endorsement of Brian Rodwell and significant help and opportunity provided by Colin Jones, I was auctioneering back at Dandenong, which to me was like a mini Newmarket,with 2 auctioneers selling at the same time.